THE WINCHESTER AND PORTSMOUTH DIOCESAN GUILD OF CHURCH BELL RINGERS

EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING 16th NOVEMBER 2024

UNCONFIRMED MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD IN ST. MARK’S CHURCH CENTRE, ARCHERS ROAD, SOUTHAMPTON

  1. Welcome

    The Guild Master - Rachael Barber, supported by the Hon. Gen. Treasurer - Robin Milford and Minute Secretary - Tony Smith, opened the meeting at 10.15 a.m. and Barry Fry said a prayer. The Master welcomed those present and encouraged members to claim travelling expenses.

    The other members attending were Martin Barnes (Belfry Stewardship), Ian Carey (Peal Recorder), Michael Church (CC Rep.), Nici Collins (Basingstoke Sec.), John Croft (Winchester Exec Rep.), Anne Deegan (IoW Sec.), Rodolph de Salis (Andover Sec. proxy), Margaret Downer (IoW Exec Rep.), Barry Fry (BRF Trustee), Dan Graham (Safeguarding), Andy Ingram (Education), Sallie-Louise Ingram (C&S Sec.), Pete Jordan (Immediate Past Master, Striking Competitions), Stephen Lutener (Basingstoke Exec Rep.), David Mattingley (BRF Trustee), Micki Nadal (Winchester Sec.), John Palk (Report Editor), Margaret Smith (CC Rep.) and Roger Smith (C&S Exec Rep.).

  2. Apologies for absence had been received from Roger Barber, Lizzie Colliss, Lucy & Mike Hopkins Till, Nick James, Peter Niblett, Simon Poyser, Bruce Purvis and Matthew Wilks.

    Tony Smith said that Matthew had just been discharged from hospital following an operation to prepare him to be able to receive a donated kidney sometime in the spring. The Master asked Tony to write to Matthew with the good wishes of the meeting.

  3. Loss of members through death since the 2024 AGM

    The Minute Secretary read the following names and the Master asked members to stand while Barry Fry said a prayer.

    David Atkins Alverstoke
    Tony AyresNew Alresford
    Alan BentleyRingwood
    Colin HaresAmport
    Derek Jackson (LM)Eling
    Maggie JohnsonHawkley
    Gwen Mackrell (LM)Chesterfield, formerly of Eling and St. Lawrence, Alton
    Alan Price (LM)Surrey, formerly of Romsey and Lockerley
    Angela Brownformerly of Chale and Brighstone
    Chris Kippinformerly of St. Michael, Southampton and Ellisfield
    Canon Gary Philbrickformerly of Hursley, Fawley, Southampton and Fordingbridge
    Kate Rogersformerly of Wonston
    Jack Shovelformerly of Silchester
    Adrian Tumberformerly of Southampton
    Cressida Wheelwrightformerly of Brown Candover
    Geoffrey Whitearformerly of Micheldever
  4. Minutes of the last meeting

    The minutes of the meeting held on 16th March 2024 were proposed by John Palk, seconded by Nici Collins, approved nem. con. and signed by the Master as a true record.

  5. Matters arising from the minutes

    Andy Ingram said that the W&P Youths came first in the SEECON Youth Striking Competition at Bushey and a close second in the RWNYC Eight-Bell Method Ringing Class in London.

  6. Appointments to fill vacancies

    1. Hon. General Secretary. There were no candidates.

    2. Public Relations Officer. There were no candidates.

  7. Correspondence

    A message had been received from Christine and Peter Hill thanking the Executive Committee and the Guild for electing them life members at the AGM. They were sorry not to have been present but were touched by the proposal and very pleased with their certificates.

  8. Life membership (on completion of 50 years’ ringing membership of the Guild in 2025)

    Roger A Barber Hawkley
    Carol CooperBlackmoor
    David M LaySopley
  9. Budget bids for 2025

    1. Peal Recorder - Nil.

    2. Librarian and Archivist - £250.

    3. Report Editor - £40.

    4. Public Relations Officer - Position vacant.

    5. Education Committee - Nil.

    6. Striking Competitions Committee - £402.

    7. Belfry Stewardship Committee - £16.

    8. Communications Committee - £500.

    9. Young Ringers’ Group - £935. In reply to an enquiry from Steve Lutener, Andy Ingram confirmed that there were three rather than five towers on the outing making the donations of £45 correct.

    The bids were approved en bloc on the proposition of Pete Jordan, seconded by Michael Church.

  10. Budget for 2025

    A Budget for 2025 prepared by the Hon. Gen. Treasurer had been circulated. Robin said insurance premiums were up by 18% but income was still expected to exceed expenditure.

  11. Bell Restoration Fund - Report on Trustees’ meeting

    David Mattingley said the grants to Binsted (£350) and All Saints’, Basingstoke (£500) had been paid since the last meeting and provided brief updates on the outstanding grants:

    A new grant application had been received from SS Peter & Paul, Ringwood for augmentation from 8 to 10, replacement of existing wheels and reconfiguration of belfry access, at a cost of £127,082 inc VAT (assuming LPW Scheme ends March 2025). On behalf of the Trustees, David proposed a grant of £15,000 which was seconded by Margaret Smith and agreed nem. con.

  12. Youth Ringing Committee

    1. The Master proposed and Andy Ingram seconded that a new Guild committee be created, specifically there should be a motion at the AGM to add “Youth Ringing Committee” as rule 9.b.v and the following Terms of Reference as rule 10.e.

      • To encourage and promote youth ringing within the Guild; to arrange regular practice and events for young ringers under the age of 19 within the Guild area, providing youth ringers an opportunity to ring with people their own age; to coordinate, when appropriate, participation in national and regional youth ringing events, such as the Ringing World National Youth Contest and the South East England Youth Contest.

      Following discussion this was agreed nem con.

    2. Tony Smith explained that the new committee would be appointed when the rule change was agreed at the AGM but there was no reason why an interim committee should not be appointed immediately. The Master proposed and Roger Smith seconded Andy Ingram; Andy Ingram proposed and Tony Smith seconded the Master; and the Master proposed and Ian Carey seconded Dan Graham. These appointments were approved nem. con.

  13. Safeguarding update

    Dan Graham presented a verbal report including a plan to conduct a Guild-wide survey of safeguarding in the New Year, to determine which towers are doing safeguarding well and could share experience with towers that could benefit from additional support, and safeguarding requirements for visiting ringers.

    Following discussion Dan proposed and Martin Barnes seconded that the form to be completed by visiting bands from outside the Guild area be endorsed, subject to the correction of the use of the adjective “Diocesan” as a noun to “Diocese” (four occurrences) and the addition of the date when the form was approved by the Portsmouth Diocesan Safeguarding Team. This was agreed nem. con.

  14. Code for Ringing

    The Master proposed and the Vice-Master seconded that the Central Council Code for Ringing be adopted as a Guild policy. This was agreed nem. con.

  15. Churches at risk

    The Master said that Simon Linford had given a presentation during the Central Council weekend, Changes in churches - What are we going to do? highlighting the likelihood of 10% of churches closing over 10 years which could include churches with important rings of bells. (Recording, Slides). She had written to Simon asking if he could produce a general summary of the main points (with links etc.) in email format which could be cascaded down to the districts and towers. He had agreed that it was a good idea and was thinking about how it could be achieved.

  16. Future Guild events

    11th January 2025 Alton & Petersfield ADM - East Meon
    Andover ADM - Goodworth Clatford
    18th January 2025Basingstoke ADM - All Saints’, Basingstoke
    25th January 2025Christchurch & Southampton ADM - Lyndhurst
    1st February 2025Portsmouth ADM - St. Mary, Portsmouth
    8th February 2025Winchester ADM - Northington
    15th February 2025Isle of Wight ADM - Newport
    15th March 2025Executive Committee Meeting
    17th May 2025Inter-Tower 6-bell striking competition
    14th June 2025Inter-District 8-bell striking competition - New Alresford
    AGM - Ropley
    5th July 2025RWNYC - Birmingham
    20th September 2025Inter-Tower 8-bell striking competition
    15th November 2025Executive Committee Meeting
  17. Any other business

    1. John Croft said that the Dean of Winchester, the Very Revd Catherine Ogle, a Patron of the Guild, was retiring “for personal reasons” on 1st May 2025.

There being no further business, the Master closed the meeting at 11.45 a.m.