The Central Council of Church Bell Ringers

Minutes of the Third Session of the 34th Council (95th Annual Meeting), held in the Key Theatre, Peterborough, on Tuesday 26th May 1992


Life Members: Miss D E Colgate, P A Corby, F E Dukes, W F Moreton, C A Wratten.
Honorary Members: A E M Bagworth, D W Beard, A P S Berry, Mrs S Bianco, E Billings, M J Church, S J Coleman, R J Cooles, W H Dobbie, R H Dove*, J C Eisel, A J Frost, C K Lewis, M H D O’Callaghan, Miss J Sanderson, Preb J G M Scott, Miss E J St John Smith*, R B Smith, D G Thorne, J M Tyler, Mrs M J Wilkinson, Mrs M A Wratten.
Ancient Society of College Youths: A R Kench, A N Stubbs, A W R Wilby.
Australia & New Zealand Assn: P M J Gray, M Stone.
Bath & Wells Dio. Assn: Mrs C A Bedding, D J Buckley, D J Kelly, G W Massey.
Bedfordshire Assn: P J S Albon, K Lewin, A H Smith.
Beverley & Dist. Society: M J de C Henshaw.
Cambridge Univ. Guild: S C Walters.
Carlisle Dio. Guild: D T Sim.
Chester Dio. Guild: P Dyson, A J Martin, C C Roberts, M Thomson.
Coventry Dio. Guild: P Border, A J Illingworth, H M Windsor, Mrs B A Winter.
Derby Dio. Assn: G A Halls, Mrs J E Orchard.
Devonshire Guild: F D Mack, M E C Mears, D J Roberts, Revd L J Yeo.
Durham & Newcastle Dio. Assn: N A Johnson, D Walker, Mrs B M Wheeler.
Durham Univ. Society: Revd P Newing.
E. Derbys & W. Notts Assn: A Dempster.
E. Grinstead & Dist. Guild: A N Brock.
Ely Dio. Assn: G E Bonham, M B Davies, S S Meyer, P S Seaman.
Essex Assn: Dr J Armstrong, F J P Bone, F B Lufkin, D Sloman.
Gloucester & Bristol Dio. Assn: B Bladon, Dr A Newing, J M Pearse, J R Taylor.
Guildford Dio. Guild: W J Couperthwaite, J R Pratt, C H Rogers, R J Walker*.
Hereford Dio. Guild: J Ellams, N R Mattingley.
Hertford County Assn: A F Alldrick, J R Mayne, Miss D M Robotham, B C Watson.
Irish Assn: A S Hudson, P M Talbot.
Kent County Assn: D C Manger, F W Lewis, D H Niblett, Mrs D R Wraight.
Ladies Guild: Miss F Cannon, Mrs C Higby, Mrs F Willgress.
Lancashire Assn: D R Jones, J Kershaw, J T Parsons*.
Leeds Univ. Society: C Forster.
Leicester Dio. Guild: A Cattell, Mrs C N J Franklin, J M Jelley, B G Warwick.
Lichfield Archd. Society: J F Mulvey, S G Pick, C M Smith.
Lincoln Dio. Guild: A D H Bird, D A Frith, A R Heppenstall, L G Townsend.
Liverpool Univ. Society: S J Flockton.
Llandaff & Monmouth Dio. Assn: Revd Dr J C Baldwin, P S Bennett, Revd J M Hughes.
London County Assn: R Booth, E G Mould, H W Rogers, Dr M T Sprackling.
Manchester Univ. Guild: D R Pettifor.
Middx County Assn. & London Dio. Guild: R Bailey, F T Blagrove, T J Lock, R K Russ.
Midland Counties Assn: M Quimby.
National Police Guild: B F Peachey.
N. American Guild: W H Jackson, D F Morrison.
N. Staffs Assn: P W Gay, N G Sharp.
N. Wales Assn: Miss D A Jones, Dr D R Marshall.
Norwich Dio. Assn: H J Charles, J B Morley, D F Riley, N M Thomas.
Oxford Dio. Guild: W Butler, H W Egglestone, J A Harrison, Dr T G Pett.
Oxford Society: B J Stone.
Oxford Univ. Society: P Q Armitage, P D Niblett.
Peterborough Dio. Guild: Miss J M Corby, C J Groome, D J Jones, J Weaver.
Railwaymen’s Guild: T Skilton.
Society of Royal Cumberland Youths: J S Barnes, I H Oram, Miss S J Pattenden, D E Sibson.
St. Martin’s Guild: J A Anderson, P R J Barnes*.
Salisbury Dio. Guild: E J Hitchins, A J Howes, Miss S P E Legge, R G W Robertson.
Scottish Assn: N E Booth.
Society of Sherwood Youths: P L R Hayward.
Shropshire Assn: F M Mitchell.
S. African Guild: P P Belgeonne.
Southwell Dio. Guild: G A Dawson, R B Mills, B A Richards.
Suffolk Guild: S D Pettman, Revd L R Pizzey, A R Smith, I J D Whitear.
Surrey Assn: J D Cheesman, E G H Godfrey, N J Goodship, K J Matthews.
Sussex County Assn: A R Baldock, R M Cox, P T Hurcombe.
Transvaal Society: Mrs A Davies.
Truro Dio. Guild: W C Boucher, A F Burley, R J Perry, P J Tremain.
Universities Assn: Revd M C C Melville.
Univ. Bristol Society: C M Foster.
Univ. London Society: P J Sanderson.
Verona Assn: P Avesani, Dr A M Hodge, R G T Morris.
Winchester & Portsmouth Dio. Guild: R Cater, A T Collins, D C Jackson, A P Smith.
Worcestershire & Dists. Assn: A Roberts, R F B Speed, R K Williams.
Yorkshire Assn: N Donovan, Revd G C Galley, R J Johnston, D Potter.
Zimbabwe Guild: Mrs V Grossmith.

The Devon Association, St David’s Diocesan Guild, and Swansea & Brecon Diocesan Guild were not represented.

Report as to membership:

The Hon Secretary (Mr C A Wratten) reported that 70 societies were affiliated to the Council, with 184 representatives; the S. Derbyshire & N. Leicestershire Association still had insufficient members to be represented. There were eight Life and 23 Honorary members.

Apologies for absence:

Apologies were received from Messrs E A Barnett and W B Cartwright (Life Members), M C W Sherwood (Honorary Member), and D J Bleby, R G Fanthorpe, D Hird, A R Lewis, J W Lewis, M V Powell, R G Powell, D D Smith and B N Trowbridge (Representative Members).

Welcome to new members:

The President (Mr C J Groome) welcomed new members present (indicated by a * in the list of those attending); and also Messrs J P Ellams and A J Martin, who joined the Council in 1991 but had not previously been formally welcomed.

Loss of members through death:

Members stood in silence as the Hon Secretary read the list of former Council members who had died since the last meeting: A Ballard (Midland CA, 1945; Leicester DG, 1946-53), C J Champion (Sussex CA, 1973-81), W T Cook (ASCY, since 1963), J H Edwards (Bedfordshire A, 1963-84), F N Golden, MBE (Norwich DA, 1930-69 and 1973-78; Honorary, 1969-72), F E Haynes (St. Martin’s G, 1950-66), L W G Morris (Yorkshire A, 1939-62), F Reynolds (Lancashire A since 1966), G Tembey (Cumberland & N Westmorland A, 1966-69), and C W Woolley (Hertford CA, 1936-57). The Revd G Galley then led members in prayer.

Election of Honorary Members:

Mrs S Bianco, Messrs S J Coleman, R J Cooles, C K Lewis and M H D O’Callaghan, and Preb J G M Scott were individually elected Honorary Members.

Minutes of the previous meeting:

The Minutes of the 1991 meeting, as published in The Ringing World of 20 March 1992, were adopted subject to the addition of the names of M Quimby (Midland Counties G) and A R Smith (Suffolk G) to the list of those present, on the proposition of the Hon Secretary, seconded by A R Smith.

Report of the Hon Secretary and Treasurer:
(RW 10 July 1992, p.663)

The report was adopted on the proposition of the Hon Secretary, seconded by Dr A Newing.

Balance Sheet and Accounts:
(RW 10 July 1992, pp.664-666)

Adopted on the proposition of the Hon Secretary, seconded by the Revd Dr J C Baldwin.

Report of the Ringing Centre working party:
(RW 10 July 1992, p.665)

On behalf of the working party, A J Frost recommended that the Council

He was seconded by R J Cooles, and the recommendations were accepted.


  1. On behalf of the Administrative Committee the Hon Secretary proposed, and Prof R J Johnston seconded,

    “That the affiliation fee be increased to £6.00 per representative from 1 January 1993”.

    The motion was passed.

  2. On behalf of the Public Relations Committee Mrs S Bianco proposed, and S J Coleman seconded,

    “That the terms of reference of the Public Relations Committee be amended to read:

    ‘To establish and maintain goodwill and mutual understanding of church bell ringing between the Central Council, its officers, committees and members, bell ringers, associations/guilds/societies in the British Isles and overseas, church authorities, the media, and the general public.’”

    and, on being put to the vote, was passed.

  3. On behalf of the Methods Committee, A P Smith proposed and R Bailey seconded,

    “that the final clause of Decision (E) D.4(b) be amended to read:

    ‘any relationship covering an indefinite number of stages shall have preference over a relationship covering a limited number of stages.’”

    That the Decision on Method Extension be modified so that an extension may not increase the number of consecutive blows made in the same position. Specifically, add the following new sub-paragraph A.1(g):

    “The extension of a method must not have a bell making more consecutive blows than are made at the related position in the parent.”

    That the Decision on Method Extension be modified so that places below the treble in an extension may be related to the places when the treble is in 2-3 in the parent.

    Specifically, add the following additional constructions to sub-paragraphs A.2(c) and (d) respectively:

    Extension SCDRoyalABCDCDEFGHI
    Extension ECDRoyalABCDC2D2E2F2G2H2I2

    That the decision on Method Extension be modified to permit static extension above the treble.

    Specifically, change the references in A.2(a) iv. from “(b)” and “either (c) or (d)” to “either (b) or (c)” and “either (d) or (e)” respectively, re-number sub-paragraphs A.2 (b), (c) and (d) to (c), (d) and (e) respectively, prefix the heading of the newly numbered sub-paragraph A.2(c), with “Expanding”, prefix the designation of these constructions with the letter “E” and add the following new sub-paragraph A.2(b):

    Static Extension above the treble.

    Extension SBCRoyalA2B2C2B2C2D2E2F2G2H2I2
    Extension SCDRoyalA2B2C2D2C2D2E2F2G2H2I2
    Extension SDERoyalA2B2C2D2E2D2E2F2G2H2I2
    Extension SEFRoyalA2B2C2D2E2F2E2F2G2H2I2
    Extension SFGRoyalA2B2C2D2E2F2G2F2G2H2I2

    1. Wherever the parent has a place made immediately above the path of the treble, this characteristic must be retained in all extensions.

    2. At the treble’s lead, seconds place and any further places adjacent to it may remain static.

    After a proposal by S J Coleman, seconded by P J Tremain, that the matter be referred back to the Committee and that it be asked to consider scrapping all rules about extension, had been defeated, the motion was passed.

Committee reports
(All Committee reports were published in The Ringing World on 10 July 1992)


Adopted on the proposition of the Hon Secretary, seconded by M J Church.

The President accepted a suggestion that the Administrative Committee should consider whether it was proper for the Council’s Auditors to be members of the Council.

Peals Analysis

Adopted on the proposition of D H Niblett, seconded by J Cheesman.


Adopted on the proposition of D E Sibson, seconded by J R Mayne.


Adopted on the proposition of A P Smith, seconded by F T Blagrove.

Peal Compositions

Adopted on the proposition of P Sanderson, seconded by M J de C Henshaw.

Public Relations

Adopted on the proposition of S J Coleman, seconded by Miss E St John Smith.

P M J Gray congratulated the Committee on its achievements.

Redundant Bells

Adopted on the proposition of Mrs M J Wilkinson, seconded by P A Corby.

Bell Restoration Funds

Adopted on the proposition of J S Barnes, seconded by E Billings.

Towers and Belfries

Adopted on the proposition of A J Frost, seconded by Preb J G M Scott.

Computer Co-ordination

Adopted on the proposition of F J P Bone, seconded by M Thomson.


Adopted on the proposition of T J Lock, seconded by Dr J C Eisel.

The Committee was asked to note that F N Golden had served on the Methods Committee, and that Dean Thurlow had been a member of the Committee for Redundant Bells and of the Rescue Fund at the time of his death.


Adopted on the proposition of W J Couperthwaite, seconded by D J Jones.


Adopted on the proposition of R Cater, seconded by Mrs C N J Franklin.


Adopted on the proposition of Miss J Sanderson, seconded by W Butler.

Following the death of the Hon Librarian, Mr W T Cook, Miss Sanderson now chaired the Committee; Dr J C Eisel was elected to the Committee to fill the vacancy left by Mr Cook, and will act as Librarian pro tem.

On behalf of the Committee Prof. Johnston proposed, and F B Lufkin seconded, that the Council’s officers be asked to establish a small working group to consider the Library’s future and to report back. This was agreed. Later, following consultations, the President announced that the Working Group would consist of D J Jones (Chairman), Miss J Sanderson, W Butler and Dr J C Eisel, and that Mr P M Wilkinson would be co-opted to provide professional advice. Its terms of reference would be “to consider the long-term future of the Library, including its future location, and to make recommendations.”

The President also said that the Officers had agreed there was no need to elect an Honorary Librarian at this meeting; and that the Administrative Committee would be discussing the future structure of the Library Committee and the role of an Honorary Librarian, with the aim of making recommendations at the Council’s 1993 meeting.

Report of the Trustees of the Carter Ringing Machine:
(RW 10 July 1992, p.668)

Adopted on the proposition of A E Bagworth, seconded by W H Dobbie.

Report of the Trustee of the Rolls of Honour:
(RW 10 July 1992, p.668)

Adopted on the proposition of A N Stubbs, seconded by C H Rogers.

A R Kench was elected Trustee in succession to W T Cook.

Rescue Fund for Redundant Bells
(RW 10 July 1992, pp.667 and 668-669)

The report and accounts were adopted on the proposition of R J Cooles, seconded by M H D O’Callaghan.

Future meetings

An invitation from the Salisbury DG for the Council to hold its 1995 meeting in Salisbury was accepted; and one from the Essex Association for 2004 was accepted.

Any other business

Following a discussion of the role and impact of English Heritage as it affected churches, the Hon Secretary was asked to write to the Secretary of the Council for the Care of Churches expressing concern about the implication for parishes of accepting English Heritage grants; members were asked to notify the Secretary immediately of any problems encountered in their dealings with English Heritage; and the President expressed willingness for the Council to become involved in any test case between a PCC and English Heritage where the former was obviously in the right and was prepared to fight.

Votes of thanks

On behalf of the Council the President warmly thanked all those who had contributed in any way to the success and enjoyment of the meeting.

Summary of Attendance
Wholly represented56145-
Partly represented102411
Not represented3-4

Life members53
Honorary members221


The Ringing World, February 26, 1993, pages 210 to 212, correction March 11, 1994, page 235

(Archivist’s note: also absent were F. E. Collins (Life), P. J. Agg (Cambridge Univ. Guild), J. Hine and R. O. Wright (Devon Assn.), M. J. Pomeroy (Irish Assn.), A. Consolaro (Veronese Assn.) and A. D. Evans (Worcestershire & Districts Assn.))

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